rhontique's Notizen, 07 Jan 16

I'm having a good week so far. Staying with my WOE. Tomorrow I go to see the surgeon to discuss gastric bypass. My insurance requires 6 months of doctor supervised weight loss prior to surgery. I am 5 months into this phase. I am losing well, but I have done this before and can keep the weight off for about 2 years and then it just creeps back on and I seem helpless to stop it. I'm thinking the surgery is the way to achieve permanent weight loss. Opinions buddies???

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That's a tough one. But you are not helpless. Keeping off the weight for 2 years is quite an accomplishment. Maybe use the time you have to find out what triggers your relapse. My biggest issue was self sabotage. Once I realized what I was doing to impede my progress I started recognizing triggers. I know that it is such a personal decision but the most important thing is your health. I would hate that the surgery is not the answer you are looking for and possibly other things need to be addressed first. You are in my thoughts. I hope someone that’s had the surgery can offer input. Best wishes to you on finding what is best for you.  
07 Jan 16 vom Mitglied: ChicaLean
I had gastric bypass and kept the weight off for 5 years. Then I had a nervous breakdown and ate. I am not sorry I had the surgery. I would recommend it for anyone who can no longer move due to obesity. 
07 Jan 16 vom Mitglied: LO-Carb Karen
I don't know you well enough to make that kind of opinion all I can say is that surgery is such a big step the fact that you have reduced before and kept it off for longer periods of time meaning two years means you just have to establish in method of eating and increased physical activity so that you just don't get it again because there are always risk with surgery I thought about that a couple of years ago I'm happy I didn't do it for some reason I think this time I've gotten over the hump and I will be able to continue to reach my ideal weight 
07 Jan 16 vom Mitglied: blkbear
My opinion is it's essential to change your way of eating permanently if you're going to have lasting weight loss and not gain it back...that applies whether you have surgery or not. For all of us, we really should deal with the issues that cause us to eat excessively and try to address them, heal if it's emotional wounds or trauma, and learn to handle them in a healthy way so they don't drive us to uncontrolled eating. Myself included in that. So what I'm saying is that surgery can be part of the answer for you, but even with the surgery it's not a permanent solution unless the new way of eating is also permanent. I do wish you great and lasting success with it. 
07 Jan 16 vom Mitglied: jmb3450
I agree with all of the above. I know several people who had the surgery and over time managed to gain a lot of weight back. I guess because they didn't deal with the conditions that led them there in the first place. I am really really trying this time around to keep LIFESTYLE CHANGE firmly in the front of my mind. Whether or not you have the surgery is a question only you can answer. I actually looked into it about 2 years ago but decided against it.  
07 Jan 16 vom Mitglied: Rckc
Surgery does not mean permanent. Take it from me. It's too easy after 18 months to gain it all back and more. It will still mean dieting forever  
07 Jan 16 vom Mitglied: Saun7
Unfortunately the majority of patients gain back the weight after gastric bypass, why?...they simply refuse to change their way of eating. You have proven to yourself that you can lose the weight, so what happens then? You have to address that more so than focusing on surgical procedures. Surgery will only get you where you have gotten to in the past...so what comes next? 1. You need a maintenance plan, 2. You need to find out what your triggers are, why do you fall off the wagon and gain back all the weight you worked hard to lose. Those are the real answers you need....surgery is not it. 
07 Jan 16 vom Mitglied: mahjohn
I would have to recommend against the surgery .. my sister got it and has had the worst side effects and looks sick bc of the rapid weight loss. its been a nightmare for her and she has had to have 5 more surgeries since,, mainly on her esophagus bc of issues with acid from her stomach or lack of stomach.. Dont do it.. take that money for your co pay and hire a personal trainer and nutritionist.. its so not worth it, my sister has almost died 2 x now and is absolutely miserable.. I did it the "long" way and look and feel great. sure it takes time but it will become a way of life...  
07 Jan 16 vom Mitglied: redgirl1974
I think only u can decide what's best for u but I think u have to look at dieting as not a diet it must b a diet u can look at as a new way of life not something ur going to do then stop. That's why it's so important to find one u can do forever. It has taken me a long time to figure that out for me it's LCHF. After I went through induction I lost the cravings for bad carbs & im not hungry all the time. Best of luck with ur decision. 
07 Jan 16 vom Mitglied: Addie Aline
its such a Risk, and I too have seen ppl gain the weigh back , weight loss is no guarantee either way you remove it,, if you don't change something in your mind . I have lost and gained the same 50 pds probably 5 times in my life,,, I would never consider such a drastic measure to keep it off . I do feel I have found what I think I can live with for the rest of my life .. I hope,, but again there is no guarantee . 
07 Jan 16 vom Mitglied: Tamarah Jo
A friend in the game business had the surgery and suffered from the experience esp acid erosion of her espohagus and had several surgeries to try and fix the situation. She still has trouble eating more than a few bites at a time and lives on a 90% liquid diet 5 years later. I also have had 2 sister-in-laws have surgery. One has stuck well to *minimalist* eating but now looks/acts frail as she is to thin even on her barely 5ft frame, but maintained the loss for over 2 years now. The other had it over a year ago and changed nothing and she did not look much different to me this holiday season than she did last so some minor weight lost and maintained but overall I am not seeing the benefits of surgery if you are losing well without it. Either way it seems to me that a changed mindset matters more than assistance. However, you know you best and make sure that your dr agrees you are healthy enough for the process as well as the procedure. 
07 Jan 16 vom Mitglied: Pterath
It is a personal decision. My husband choose surgery August 4th, 2015 for weight reduction. And, although I did not encourage him, in fact told him he shouldn't he has successfully lost the weight. He is off all medications except for thyroid and vitamins/supplements. He feels great, is logging wood with horses and keeps up with our 33 year old son. But, he no longer saws logs while sleeping (no more snoring). He has had few side effects, but he is very structured and follows his doctor's recommendation.  
07 Jan 16 vom Mitglied: ginger dog
Majohn, that was also going to be basically my answer. You said it well. I'm at work ended up busy for awhile so could not relpy. Find a WOE that is sustainable for you, lose slowly, exercise, and tweak your plan along your way as you find what works for you.  
07 Jan 16 vom Mitglied: wholefoodnut
Majohn, that was also going to be basically my answer. You said it well. I'm at work ended up busy for awhile so could not relpy. Find a WOE that is sustainable for you, lose slowly, exercise, and tweak your plan along your way as you find what works for you.  
07 Jan 16 vom Mitglied: wholefoodnut
Majohn, that was also going to be basically my answer. You said it well. I'm at work ended up busy for awhile so could not relpy. Find a WOE that is sustainable for you, lose slowly, exercise, and tweak your plan along your way as you find what works for you.  
07 Jan 16 vom Mitglied: wholefoodnut
Majohn, that was also going to be basically my answer. You said it well. I'm at work ended up busy for awhile so could not relpy. Find a WOE that is sustainable for you, lose slowly, exercise, and tweak your plan along your way as you find what works for you.  
07 Jan 16 vom Mitglied: wholefoodnut
There must be different degrees of these kinds of surgery, since so many have varied results. My Niece had it done 5 years ago, and she's miserable, lost all the weight, but can't eat more than a few bites at a time, is always starving, lots of side effects, & is so skinny it looks unhealthy. It was so bad she tried to get the process reversed but they told her it was impossible. She's said many times "if only I'd known what it was like I would NEVER have done it." 
07 Jan 16 vom Mitglied: billtech66
DON'T opt for surgical intervention! You will regret it. I have talked to so many people who had it and they have horrendous problems afterwards. If you can do the preop diet they recommend and shrink your stomach, then NEVER overeat again, you should keep the weight off. Everyone asks if I had gastric bypass and the answer is NO, I did have a period of no food intake (due to ostomy surgery) but was able to lose the weight, and keep my stomach smaller because I refuse to overeat. Go to Dollar Tree and invest $1.00 in one of the small three section baby plates and eat only off of this. Wait 15 minutes, and if you still feel hungry, fill it one more time. Veggies/salad goes in the largest section, with protein in one small section and your starch (if your must have it) or fruit in the other. I do recommend HFLC lifestyle. 
07 Jan 16 vom Mitglied: SheaDlady
Don't do it. You're going to have to eat less either way so just suck it up and find a way of eating that you can deal with without the surgery because IF you do the surgery you're stuck with it.  
07 Jan 16 vom Mitglied: 1point21gigawatts
I agree with the other anti surgery voices... Going for surgery means you are still in denial of your personal responsibility for your life... That your weight problem is something happening to you, that it is something out of your control, or someone else's responsibility to do something for you. This is YOU you are talking about - yourself, your journey, your responsibility. And surgery is a one way street. And a narrow one at that, as Philmck says. Also, remember that if you are overweight and have a general anaesthetic, your risks of complications and death go way up over the average. Our poor bodies cope so well with the abuse we give it's easy to go un-noticed for too long. I got fat because of what I ate. Now it's up to me to do something for myself 'cos I want to live and be healthy. That's enough motivation for me. My bad, I'll take the rap and make it my good. Luckily for me I was in time and didn't die from the heart attack waiting to happen.  
07 Jan 16 vom Mitglied: Penlan

     
 

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